Unable to see IP address of Local Devices, PiHole as DHCP

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A Delicious Man
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 6:42    Post subject: Unable to see IP address of Local Devices, PiHole as DHCP Reply with quote
Router Model: Asus RT-AC66U
Firmware: DD-WRT v3.0-r44715 giga (11/03/20)
Kernel: Linux 4.4.241 #4737 Tue Nov 3 15:24:01 +03 2020 mips

So to explain my network setup real quick.

There is a Pi Hole running latest updates, it is both my DNS and DHCP server. 192.168.1.9
That is plugged into a Nighthawk RAX10, which is my main router. Has stock firmware, connects to the modem + PiHole. 192.168.1.1 (Modem is on 192.168.0.1)
Finally, the Asus RT-AC66U with DD WRT is running in a different room as a client bridge, via wi-fi to the RAX10. 192.168.1.100
I also have an unraid box on 192.168.1.9 that is connected to it.

Now, if I go to my PiHole and look at the DHCP server and see devices on my network, everything that connects to my main router (RAX10) has a unique IP and if I'm local, also their hostname. But any device connected to the DD WRT client bridge just, simply does not show up in my PiHole at all. I can still access my unraid server to it no issue at all. Same with the TV and console connected to that router. They can connect to the internet just fine, but they don't show up on my PiHole at all.

I just want to make sure I didn't bunger up a setting somewhere or something.

Thanks
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egc
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:56    Post subject: Reply with quote
You are running an old and outdated build.

See the forum guidelines with helpful pointers about how to research your router, where and what firmware to download, where and how to post and many other helpful tips:
https://forum.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=324087

Current build is 54569

Station bridge setup see: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/egc112/ddwrt/main/DDWRT%20Wireless%20Bridge%20v5.pdf

Note Station bridge is not a real bridge like WDS or mesh so it has its limitations, this could be one of it

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 15:43    Post subject: Reply with quote
Client / Station Bridge modes have non-functional multicast and arp. Wired backhaul recommended.
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A Delicious Man
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:14    Post subject: Reply with quote
egc wrote:
You are running an old and outdated build.

See the forum guidelines with helpful pointers about how to research your router, where and what firmware to download, where and how to post and many other helpful tips:
https://forum.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=324087

Current build is 54569

Station bridge setup see: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/egc112/ddwrt/main/DDWRT%20Wireless%20Bridge%20v5.pdf

Note Station bridge is not a real bridge like WDS or mesh so it has its limitations, this could be one of it


Ah ok, I totally miss understood how the Router Database worked before, and the guide I used followed it to get their router firmware.
I got the latest one now:
DD-WRT v3.0-r54569 giga (12/21/23)

I am unsure what WDS is?

I checked out the guided you linked, seems to be the same way as I currently have everything set up. Minus the IPs not showing up anywhere (which doesn't make sense to me as how do devices have internet then) it's worked fine.
A Delicious Man
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:15    Post subject: Reply with quote
dale_gribble39 wrote:
Client / Station Bridge modes have non-functional multicast and arp. Wired backhaul recommended.


I would love to do wired, unfortunately running a 40 foot cable is not really an option right now. Maybe the next apartment haha.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 2:02    Post subject: Reply with quote
A Delicious Man wrote:
Ah ok, I totally miss understood how the Router Database worked before, and the guide I used followed it to get their router firmware.

What guide did you follow?
A Delicious Man wrote:
I am unsure what WDS is?

Wireless Distribution System (link to wiki page)
A Delicious Man wrote:
I checked out the guided you linked, seems to be the same way as I currently have everything set up. Minus the IPs not showing up anywhere (which doesn't make sense to me as how do devices have internet then) it's worked fine.

egc wrote:
Note Station bridge is not a real bridge like WDS or mesh so it has its limitations, this could be one of it

dale_gribble39 wrote:
Client / Station Bridge modes have non-functional multicast and arp. Wired backhaul recommended.

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But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep." - Robert Frost

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<fact>code knows no gender</fact>

This is me, knowing I've ruffled your feathers, and not giving a ****
Some people are still hard-headed.

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A Delicious Man
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:55    Post subject: Reply with quote
dale_gribble39 wrote:
What guide did you follow?

Great question, was on a third party site and now I can't find it in my history.

I can't right now as I need the network, but I'll backup my settings and try WDS over the weekend and see what happens. I don't really need it to boost my wireless signal, but whatever.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 6:17    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, they are much older posts, but these two seem to suggest this router and WDS are problematic.

https://forum.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=176116&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

https://forum.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=879977
A Delicious Man
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 22:59    Post subject: Reply with quote
So I haven't done the WDS recently, but I found something interesting. About once a week I have to reboot the router or else the devices on it crawl to a slow network wise. They never lose connection, just it suddenly becomes awful and a reboot of the router only fixies it.
I just set my router to have a once a week scheduled reboot, but I noticed this:
Quote:
It is necessary for WDS to work as intended. When the WDS AP is rebooted, manually or do to power outage, the WDS stations need to reboot in order to reconnect to the WDS AP

- https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Scheduled_reboot

Isn't that particular? I wonder if it also relates to the network issue I am having with my router as well.
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