anyone try this 1000 mW radio yet ?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 18:47    Post subject: anyone try this 1000 mW radio yet ? Reply with quote
http://www.wlanparts.com/product/KXS30SG/KXS30SG__MINIPCI_ADAPTER_80211bg_1000mW.html

Looks insanely great !

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 18:58    Post subject: Reply with quote
1W transmitter is only usefull when you have other end(s) also having 1W transmitters... And generally 1W transmitter is usefull in really long distance links etcetc...

But generally speaking there is no hard itself to have capability of 1W transmission, even when not used.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 20:22    Post subject: Reply with quote
What I'm wanting to maybe use these for is in an ALIX board replacement for our co-op WISP's aging Orinoco AP1000 APs.

The Orinocos currently are using 1W amps, and it would be great to eliminate that.

We have distances of up to almost 10 KM from the APs to the clients.

Anyway, I'm going to buy one of these for my prototype and see how it performs - I was just wondering if anyone on the board had got one yet...

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 20:28    Post subject: Reply with quote
in most standard conditions you wont need 1W for only 10km also not for 10miles
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 20:35    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sash,

We're in our sixth year with hundreds of subscribers, and yes, we do need 1W APs.

I just think it will be better to try to do them with less devices.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 21:28    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well you are correct that 1W device will carry further than "normal" access point, but please you still have to understand that you clients will need 1W transmitter too in order to benefit anything, eg it doesn't help that you can yell far if other person can't yell as far as you in order to response.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:38    Post subject: Reply with quote
thats a rebranded compex card by the way ...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:55    Post subject: Reply with quote
i would prefer much better antennas! this has the benefit that you receive much better, too
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 18:32    Post subject: Reply with quote
Some of our AP antennas are 16 dBi omnis, some are 17 dBi sectorals, some are multiple sectorals with splitters, sepending on the AP.

Some of our Client antennas are 19 dBi panels, some are 21 dBi grids and some are 24 dBi grids - mostly also depending on location. Most clients are wrt54g(v<=4) some are buffalo HP, some are HGA 8186s, and some are old CB3 bridges.

our target used to be about 16 SNR at the accesspoint, but our new target is for an SNR of 20 at the accesspoint.

Anyway, I'll get this card and see how well it works in my Alix prototype.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 20:12    Post subject: Reply with quote
omnis are bad
splitters a very bad, much loss few benefit
you should switch to sector antennas only...especialy for longer links!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 20:34    Post subject: Valemount KXS30SG Reply with quote
hebeda wrote:
thats a rebranded compex card by the way ...


Just a quick clarification on that comment. I'm with Freespace Systems who brings you this radio...

It is true, this is an item that Compex is making for us. They are a key partner for us and build many items for us with our design input and specifications. This radio is one of them. It is not available from any other outlet other than ourselves and our distribution network.

I'll try to monitor this thread to answer any questions you may have, but I'm not a regular here.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:30    Post subject: Reply with quote
Guys, he has a reason to use a high power card. He did mention that he is using splitters and possibly long run wires. Sash, as long as you compensate for the loss of running long wires and splitters, there shouldn't be any issues with it.

So yes, there is a benefit for a high power card in this case. I am sure that he is not trying to reach longer distances, he most likely is attempting to have a very strong signal with little loss from the transmitter to the antennas, and the antennas need to be very directional to be able to pickup the weak signals from the customers, so I see the need for multiple antennas in order to cover a large area. I don't see a reason for him being wrong, actually, seems like he knows what he needs.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 22:43    Post subject: Reply with quote
I received the card and plugged it in and it works kinda funny,

I see multiple MACS per SSID

here's my stumble and my config

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 23:01    Post subject: Reply with quote
Spy Alelo wrote:
Guys, he has a reason to use a high power card. He did mention that he is using splitters and possibly long run wires. Sash, as long as you compensate for the loss of running long wires and splitters, there shouldn't be any issues with it.


this is true for the sending path. for the receiving path its more complicated and not easy to handle. you cant compensate the ATT in a acceptable way.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 15:35    Post subject: Reply with quote
I got my alix re-activated and have been trying to turn up the power on the card

seems like no matter what I set in the gui for "tx power" , the status still shows 18 dBm

are there commands to fix this, or is x86 build just broken in this regard ?


*edit -- I can turn it down, but not up*

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